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Old 10-07-2009, 01:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default 400nl: JJ facing turn C/R. I play terrible!

Ok villan is theD*rkjo*ker and is a very spewy b/e 200/400nl reg. I flatted pre to keep the fish in the pot, although i think his range for raising out of the blinds is likely to be fairly tight (Most pp's, broadways and monsters)

Thoughts on all streets. Bet sizing is pretty terrible on the turn, any1 call it off?

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UTG: $217.25
CO: $594.85
BTN: $132.25

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is BB with J J
UTG calls $4, 2 folds, SB raises to $20, Hero calls $16, UTG calls $16

Flop: ($60.00) 8 6 3 (3 players)
SB bets $40.00, Hero calls $40, UTG calls $40

Turn: ($180.00) 4 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $112.00, UTG folds, SB raises to $375, Hero ????
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Old 10-07-2009, 01:37 PM   #2 (permalink)
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that's kinda tough

flush outs might be good might not

99 or TT ? possible - but so are a whole heap of bad things

i lean towards a call but i'm a fish - and you said he was spewy
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I don't have much detailed info on villain so I might be wrong but I don't think of him as spewy, more like weak.

I would either check turn or bet/call, don't see any other options.
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Old 10-07-2009, 02:13 PM   #4 (permalink)
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hmm - as you have a flush draw i may be tempted to check behind turn. As played i think i would call it off
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I'd normally fold, I don't think you will be good often enough even with the pot odds under normal circumstances. But if he's playing in a generally spewy fashion that day or if he's lost a couple of buyins (possibly vs you specifically) I might lean towards a call.
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Ok villan is theD*rkjo*ker and is a very spewy b/e 200/400nl reg. I flatted pre to keep the fish in the pot, although i think his range for raising out of the blinds is likely to be fairly tight (Most pp's, broadways and monsters)

Thoughts on all streets. Bet sizing is pretty terrible on the turn, any1 call it off?

Party Poker $400.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

SB: $435.00
Hero (BB): $400.00
UTG: $217.25
CO: $594.85
BTN: $132.25

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is BB with J J
UTG calls $4, 2 folds, SB raises to $20, Hero calls $16, UTG calls $16

Flop: ($60.00) 8 6 3 (3 players)
SB bets $40.00, Hero calls $40, UTG calls $40

Turn: ($180.00) 4 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $112.00, UTG folds, SB raises to $375, Hero ????
Why did you only call on the flop? What's wrong with a raise to say $100 or $120? You find out an awfull lot about your opponents holding compared to the strength of your hand plus if you don't take the pot down you may even get a free card on the turn.
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As it is now I let this go. There is a lot you are losing to and only 10s and 9s and bluffs are your only hope. Even with previous history pointing towards a call I just can't do it. You missed your chance. Next hand please.
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interested to see outcome jp?
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Why did you only call on the flop? What's wrong with a raise to say $100 or $120? You find out an awfull lot about your opponents holding compared to the strength of your hand plus if you don't take the pot down you may even get a free card on the turn.
Im drunk but this sounds more drunk than i could ever be fwiw.
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